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(@Eric H.)
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I've been looking at long DRV 5th wheels, but I just got concern about the maximum length allowed in different states.  This site:  https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-dimensions/  has a nice list of limitations, but many of them seem ridiculous.  For example, the longest trailer allowed in Arizona seems to be 28.5'.  How can this be?  What am I missing?  Or is AAA just totally wrong about this?


   
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(@Lance A Lott)
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I have seen the aaa list before there are other sites that seem to list similar dimensions. You never seem to hear about people being ticketed and I am sure they sell 30 foot trailers in AZ.


   
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(@sandsys)
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There's still a law on the books in my hometown that it is illegal for a woman to wear a skirt short enough to expose her ankles. Nobody enforces those laws but no one repeals them either.

Linda


   
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(@Mark and Dale Bruss)
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Nice list but wrong is so many ways.

For the record, 28.5' is the typical max trailer length for double commercial trailers.

Whenever I see lists like this I start with Maryland because I have dug into the state codes in great detail.  Maryland made 40' trailers legal in 2003 and I have yet to see any of these supposedly accurate lists show that.

Length and width rules are by state, i.e. you have to obey the rules of the state when on their roads.  This is unlike your drivers license which is good is all the states and the District of Columbia.

Rough rule of thumb for RVs is 65' rig total, 40' trailer,  45' motorhome.  Be aware that commercial limits are not applicable to RVs.

And yes, sometimes tickets are written for over length.


   
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(@Kirk W)
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Welcome to the Escapee forums!

While I have no idea what the source of that list is, you can download a copy of this list of state legal lengths from RVIA, the RV manufacturer's association. The most common limit is one of 65' total length for the combination of tow vehicle and towed vehicle. 


Edited June 29 by Kirk W


   
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(@TXiceman)
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Kirk's list is a good starting point.  Max over length range from 55' to 75' with the most common being 65'.  That is front bumper to the rear most on the trailer.  

We are 58' nose to tail and have not had any issue with our 40' 5th wheel.

The problems is with the longer trailers, you will be limited on parks that you can fit into.  National Parks and older parks are generally the issue.  You can usually find a commercial park that can take the longer rig.

 

Ken


   
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(@FL-JOE)
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Kirk is correct, the RVIA list is the most accurate on out there.  For years anything reference RV lengths that AAA puts out is generally 100% wrong.  I don't think they understand the difference between commercial vehicle restrictions and RVs, or at the very least get the restrictions/limitations confused.

We are 73' total length.  We are currently camped with two friends that also have long trailers as toads.  Both of them are longer, one at 75' and one at 76'.  All three of us are illegal in most states.  I knew this when I added my 24' trailer as a toad, my two friends are just now realizing it.  

They are continuing on and visiting Oregon and California.  Someone in the campground told them that they would be illegal in California and if stopped the fine would be over $1,500.  The camper that told them this said he "heard" this information "somewhere".

Here is how I look at being overlength.  First of all it would be an equipment violation if stopped and cited.  Even if the state you would be ticketed in would send that conviction back to your home state it more than likely would never count against your driver's license.  The fine would be more like $75 to $125, nothing like $1,500.  A speeding ticket on the other hand would probably be at least $100 and would certainly count against your driver's license.  I just think you have to keep this whole overlength thing in perspective.

I'm not saying everyone should ignore the length limits.  Just like I'm not saying people should speed or break any of the laws of another state they are visiting.  However, you have to apply common sense.  Ask yourself what violation is more serious and what would a Trooper be more likely to pull an RV over for, traveling 80mph in a 70mph zone, or "appearing" to be over the length limit?


   
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(@Big5er)
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  On 6/30/2019 at 10:13 PM, FL-JOE said:

I'm not saying everyone should ignore the length limits. 

Uh....yes you are.


   
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(@FL-JOE)
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  On 6/30/2019 at 10:41 PM, Big5er said:

Uh....yes you are.

I figured that would bring a reaction from my old deputy buddy!  How you been there Big?  

As usual you are wrong.  I did not say everyone should ignore the length limits, if we were having this discussion in person I could even read what I typed very slowly to you so you could actually comprehend exactly what I stated.  Now if you want to claim that I am ignoring the length limits then you would be correct.  

Since you are holding yourself out there as some kind of "official" internet length police, let us be totally honest here.  Do you ever speed?  


   
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(@Barbaraok)
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I notice that nobody bothered to review  section 41-4001 of the Arizona code, which contains the definition of recreational vehicle.   Being a recreational vehicle is an exempt to the 'trailer' length for other types of trailers, and as such it is 40' in Arizona with motorhomes having a max length of 45'.   Overall length for trailer+tow vehicle is 65', same as for motorhome pulling something else.    Notice, this is for registering in Arizona.  I don't know that they would pull you over if you are over length going through the state.  

Also, isn't it a given that if it is something about an RV that AAA will have it wrong?

 


Edited June 30 by Barbaraok


   
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(@Barbaraok)
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Joe, how long has it been since you have had a speeding ticket?  $100 - you should be so lucky.  B)


   
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(@Randyretired)
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California has some history enforcing length laws and recently significantly raised violation fines.  If one were to be cited I'm pretty sure $100 wouldn't begin to cover it.  Over length and over weight fines can be very expensive.  Arizona on the other hand must not prioritize over length as I see many long setups. There are more than one of us posting here that are over length or over width at times so I guess it is not a priority in a lot of states.  If one were to be involved in an accident priorities might change.


   
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(@Barbaraok)
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Arizona wants snowbirds to spend money.  They know most will soon be parked and they have wrong way drivers to worry about!  


   
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(@kb0zke)
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Part of the reason why some States have shorter lengths permitted than others may be that their roads are narrower and maybe have more curves. The Interstate Highway system has design standards that are uniform nationwide. Other highways are designed in the States, and don't meet those standards. Particularly in the East, roads may still follow what was, essentially, a foot path. Yes, it has been widened some, and some of the sharper bends have been straightened, but it is still more suitable for a car than for a MH towing a vehicle or a large truck towing a larger 5'er.

While I'm thinking of it, pay attention to height restrictions on your proposed route.


   
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(@Kirk W)
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  On 7/1/2019 at 7:40 AM, kb0zke said:

Other highways are designed in the States, and don't meet those standards.

The US routes also meet the federal standards. State highways are less so and county roads can get really interesting. 


   
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