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(@ToddF)
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We've been loyal KOA members for 5 years even though we seldom stay in KOA parks. Checking on the KOA in Okeechobee FL I was shocked at the $85 rate for a back in site. Found a PPA park for $25.50 night within 2 miles of the KOA park. Maybe it's  time to stop wasting $30 year on something of such little value. We're getting a lot more bang for the buck with our Thousand Trails zone pass and Passport America membership.


Edited August 21, 2017 by ToddF


   
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(@SWharton)
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We rarely use them though we have friends that only stay at KOA if possible. We just found them overpriced in general for what you get. We stopped staying at them 40 years ago. Stopped for the night with our children: pool $; extra people $; showers $. Yet saying that we stay at one that is very reasonable for being close to a major city. Then we always stayed at 2 parks for the night over traveling in the winter, both became KOA and raised their rates $15/night. Too high a premium. We also had a steady PPA cg that we would stop at, dropped PPA, next year was a PPA cg again. You can control where you stay to save $, you can save some money on gas to save $. You don't have much control over food costs.


   
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(@Dutch_12078)
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We normally stay at two KOA's twice on our trek south and back north each year, and those stays alone accumulate enough points to pay our VIK membership each year plus a couple of free nights now then, from other KOA stays throughout the year. However, both of our regular KOA's have gotten so busy that getting reservations has become difficult over the past couple of years. This coming winter we're replacing one of the KOA's in GA near the FL line with a GA state park that's only a few miles away, and the other one with a nearby park that's now open year round in PA. We tried that PA park last spring, and were very pleased with both the park and the rates. Given the reduction in KOA usage, it may not be worth it to us to maintain our VIK membership. We'll see how it goes, and we will still have our SKP, GS, and PA memberships that more than pay for themselves...


   
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(@Kirk W)
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KOA is only our choice if there is no other respectable park in the area we wish to visit. We probably average about 1 KOA stay every 3 to 5 years. 


   
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(@Biker56)
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I haven't stayed at a KOA for over 7-8 years.
But I just made a reservation on line at one in September on my way back home. I usually stay at a Good Sam campground around 20 miles from this KOA on way North and way back every year for over 16 years.

This last spring the GS campground raised their rates with even my 10% discount to $40.20 a night.
This KOA without any discount will cost $36.38. If OK I change my yearly 2 stops in that area to this KOA.

The other 3 travel nights will be at PA campgrounds at less then $21.75 a night.


   
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(@Kirk W)
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  On 8/21/2017 at 6:36 AM, Biker56 said:

This KOA without any discount will cost $36.38. If OK I change my yearly 2 stops in that area to this KOA.

Be careful as we have found that KOA tends to have a bunch of little extra charges once you arrive that push the rate up above what was quoted. Things like $3 extra for 50a, $2 more for a pet, $2 for cable TV, $3 for wifi, and so on. A friend tells me that the letters KOA stand for the words "keep on adding."  :unsure:


Edited August 21, 2017 by Kirk Wood


   
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(@trailertraveler)
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  On 8/21/2017 at 7:40 PM, Kirk Wood said:

Be careful as we have found that KOA tends to have a bunch of little extra charges once you arrive that push the rate up above what was quoted. Things like $3 extra for 50a, $2 more for a pet, $2 for cable TV, $3 for wifi, and so on. A friend tells me that the letters KOA stand for the words "keep on adding."  :unsure:

This comes up on just about every discussion about KOA. Many RV Parks have sites at various prices based on various combinations of amenities/services. No hookup (tent) sites, water/electric only, full hookup, backin, pull through, etc. All at  different prices. Even many Passport America Parks charge more for a 50amp site, cable TV, Wifi, etc., if they have more than one type of site. Very few parks charge for only what you use. The price for the site is the price for the site whether you want or plan to use all of the amenities. We have stayed at about 30 different KOAs since 2004 (some more than once) and never been charged a pet fee. In over 250 different parks/campgrounds, the only place we have ever been charged a pet fee was a Virginia State Park. If you look at the KOA website, the prices for the various types of sites are clearly shown. They often do have more choices than many RV parks/campgrounds. Now if you just drive in, there is no guarantee that the cheapest type of site will be available, or that your rig will fit in it.

No membership or buyers club annual fee is worth the cost if you do not use it or value at least one or more of the services/benefits provided. KOA membership provides a discount on park rates and also a point system where like a credit card, the more you spend the larger the rebate. They also have special deals like stay 2 get one free. KOA also has agreements for special deals with various RV Service providers for things like Emergency Road Service. For years, Allstate provided a free KOA membership with their RV Help Plan. Now, there is a steep discount in the first year of the RV Help Plan and a $70 discount card good at KOA campgrounds.

Many Rvers also malign Good Sam. Again, it is only worth it if you use it. The 10% discount is not the only benefit. I have had two occasions to have the Good Sam "Action Line" help resolve warranty issues that were denied. One by an appliance manufacturer and one by the RV manufacturer. The nearly $1,000.00 they saved me will pay for a lot of years of membership.


   
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(@Mark and Dale Bruss)
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We stay at KOAs and the rates for the sites we pick include all the "markups" that are supposedly added.  If you only look at the base rate for a site, the "addons" will cost more.  We make reservations and the prices we had at reservation is the price we paid..

KOA has come up with a tied rating for parks.  Right now we are in KOA Holiday park which is full of amenities  and the kids that go with them and a price to fit.  But it was near a Viet Nam Buddy and that is okay with us.  There are now KOA Journey parks which are targeted for over-night type stops.  Fewer amenities and lower prices to fit.

Park [rices in general have gone up.  Another thing we are aware of is the closer a park to a tourist center, the higher the rates.  We stayed at a park near Niagara Falls and the price before discounts was $91.  The other thing to look for is places where most of the business on weekends, typically near bigger cities.  The parks are absolutely full on Friday-Sunday and then very vacant the rest of the week.  Those places set their rates to compensate for the reduced number of occupancy site days.

 

 


Edited August 21, 2017 by Mark and Dale Bruss


   
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(@Biker56)
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  On 8/21/2017 at 7:40 PM, Kirk Wood said:

Be careful as we have found that KOA tends to have a bunch of little extra charges once you arrive that push the rate up above what was quoted. Things like $3 extra for 50a, $2 more for a pet, $2 for cable TV, $3 for wifi, and so on. A friend tells me that the letters KOA stand for the words "keep on adding."  :unsure:

My MH is 30AMP but 50AMP is included in price, NO pets on board, Ihave my own Trav'ler using DirecTV, I have my own Internet hotspot and can use either Mobley AT&T or Sprint hotspot. So no extras needed.

I only plug into electric no water or sewer needed. If spot is level then I don't even put my jacks down and never put slideout out for a 1 night stay. Makes for a quick get away the next morning, especially if it happens to be raining. :)

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Travel Dates: Tuesday, September XX, 2017 - Wednesday, September XX, 2017 (1 night)
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Details: 1 Adults, Motorhome towing35 ft.
Slideouts, No Pets
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Your Campsite: Pull-thru, Water/Electric, 50/30 amp, Cable, WiFi
Roomy pull thru sites for those not needing full hook-ups! Reserve now! Two large Pet Walk areas provided, therefore, Kennels/Pens not allowed on the sites. Limit-3 Pets
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Your Reservation Summary:
Dates Rates Nights Price
9/xx/2017 - 9/xx/2017 $34.00 / Night 1 $34.00
Taxes: $2.38
Value Kard Rewards Discount: N/A
Estimated Total For Your Stay* US$36.38
Reservation Deposit Amount Paid US$36.38


Edited August 21, 2017 by Biker56


   
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(@Dutch_12078)
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  On 8/21/2017 at 7:40 PM, Kirk Wood said:

Be careful as we have found that KOA tends to have a bunch of little extra charges once you arrive that push the rate up above what was quoted. Things like $3 extra for 50a, $2 more for a pet, $2 for cable TV, $3 for wifi, and so on. A friend tells me that the letters KOA stand for the words "keep on adding."  :unsure:

I've never found all these extra charges at KOA's other than an occasional WiFi charge. The price we were quoted on the reservation site has always been the price we paid. Your list reminds me of some non-KOA parks though, that have an extra $1-$2/day charge for 50 amp, and some of them only have Tengo WiFi at a price, while others have no on-site WiFi or cable at all. Oh, wait a minute... Those are Escapees owned parks... ;)


   
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 Al F
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  On 8/21/2017 at 8:58 PM, Biker56 said:

My MH is 30AMP but 50AMP is included in price, NO pets on board, Ihave my own Trav'ler using DirecTV, I have my own Internet hotspot and can use either Mobley AT&T or Sprint hotspot. So no extras needed.

I only plug into electric no water or sewer needed. If spot is level then I don't even put my jacks down and never put slideout out for a 1 night stay. Makes for a quick get away the next morning, especially if it happens to be raining. :)

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Travel Dates: Tuesday, September XX, 2017 - Wednesday, September XX, 2017 (1 night)
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Details: 1 Adults, Motorhome towing35 ft.
Slideouts, No Pets
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Your Campsite: Pull-thru, Water/Electric, 50/30 amp, Cable, WiFi
Roomy pull thru sites for those not needing full hook-ups! Reserve now! Two large Pet Walk areas provided, therefore, Kennels/Pens not allowed on the sites. Limit-3 Pets
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Your Reservation Summary:
Dates Rates Nights Price
9/xx/2017 - 9/xx/2017 $34.00 / Night 1 $34.00
Taxes: $2.38
Value Kard Rewards Discount: N/A
Estimated Total For Your Stay* US$36.38
Reservation Deposit Amount Paid US$36.38

Except for the electric hookup I get all you paid for at Walmart for $0.  For electric I have solar panels and lithium batteries which more than paid for themselves on our 8 month trip from Texas to Alaska and back last year. The actual Alaska trip from the US border with Canada and back was 139 days.  Only 2 of those days with elect hookups. This year and beyond the solar and batteries are free.


   
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(@theeyres)
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We have stayed at a few KOAs in the last year and they sure are booming. They have found their market and they are entitled to it. If you are looking for the cheapest place, that's not their market for sure. I know when I was fulltiming price was king, as it had to be, but now that I'm very part-time ambiance is king and I'm will to pay for it and it may sound weird but I like the ambiance in most KOA parks as it is definitely more rustic. I hate the gentrified, groomed, paved and cut grass parks.  Just saying KOA knows their market and if it isn't you I'm not sure why you have to knock it. It obviously is a great fit for many people.


   
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(@Biker56)
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  On 8/22/2017 at 6:47 AM, Al F said:

Except for the electric hookup I get all you paid for at Walmart for $0.  For electric I have solar panels and lithium batteries which more than paid for themselves on our 8 month trip from Texas to Alaska and back last year. The actual Alaska trip from the US border with Canada and back was 139 days.  Only 2 of those days with elect hookups. This year and beyond the solar and batteries are free.

I am glad you like that kind of Full time life. But it is not for me. I don't want to sit at a Wally World parking lot for 15-17 hours a day.
That is how long I spend at overnight campgrounds and at destinations I use electric 24/7.

I don't have to carry around all the extra weight of solar panels and need to buy expensive batteries.
That by your post will last forever and never need replaced.   solar and batteries are free. :)
I can only get my T-105 6V batteries to last around 7 years 6 months on average and then need to replace them for $$$, not free.

I need electric to run my refrigerator, stand alone Freezer, stand alone Ice Maker, Both AC(Like to keep RV temps between 73-78º 24/7) with one being a heat pump also, 2 small space heaters,  my 55", 26", 24", 20" and 10" TV,  Genie DTV receiver, surround sound stereo system, 2 desktop & 2 laptops, charge my iPhone plus 2 iPads, keep my hotspot working, weBoost, WiFiRanger running, hair dryer, convection/microwave(use it a lot), water heater, and other items that use electric.
Yep!! I am a electric hog. :)

I don't think my roof it big enough to hold enough solar panels to keep enough batteries charged(which I have no place to put them) to run all my devices.

By the way I just checked my Quicken for 2016 my average per night/day for Full Time hooks ups came out to $4.48 a day for the 12 months. 2015 it was $4.15 way back in 2003 it was $5.15

My LPG bill every year has averaged $51.96 a year for the last 11 years and includes use(mostly exercising) of my LPG 6.5W generator.

You enjoy your solar & I will enjoy my electric.

 


   
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(@ToddF)
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Not knocking KOA...the membership just doesn't pay for itself in our case. Post is under "living on a budget" which we are.


   
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(@mptjelgin)
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I agree that paying for something like a KOA Value Card is simply a cost/benefit thing. If it saves you money, then get it. If not, it makes sense to let it go. 

Some years we've had one and used it.  Years when I know we won't be travelling as much, or I know of specific parks along the way, we don't. We've stayed in some very nice KOA's that were competitive with other parks in the area, so the idea that they are always more expensive or run down isn't accurate in our case. 

We've never seen the kind of add-ons that others have mentioned. 


   
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