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Barricades were setup across the road and there were multiple signs that warned drivers to not cross the flooded roadway.

If you read the story that RV was a home built that was driven into the water intentionally by the parents of the 7 children.

Edited December 1 by Kirk W

The article called it a "military-type" vehicle. That could describe several pretty stout commercial RV's. Obviously not stout enough for this situation though...

There were warnings out all day BEFORE the storm hit the we were in for a lot of flash floods and to stay off the roads if at all possible!  3 tornados touched down in the Phoenix area, it was a BAD storm.  The adults need to be arrested for child neglect!

Sad. . .and a tragedy for sure - yet not uncommon in Arizona - the state with the "Stupid Motorist Law".

  On 12/1/2019 at 10:33 AM, Barbaraok said:

There were warnings out all day BEFORE the storm hit the we were in for a lot of flash floods and to stay off the roads if at all possible!  3 tornados touched down in the Phoenix area, it was a BAD storm.  The adults need to be arrested for child neglect!

I'll second that! The widespread warnings to never drive into flooded roads, likely makes the driver into a criminal, as deaths occured. "The woman  made it to the other shore"; leaves serious questions to be answered. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tonto-basin-2-children-dead-after-being-swept-away-in-arizona-floodwaters-1-still-missing-2019-11-30/

Edited December 1 by Ray,IN

Here are some photos of the area.   https://www.azfamily.com/news/children-found-dead-child-missing-after-floodwaters-swept-away-vehicle/article_e0c8f5fe-1312-11ea-8c02-b35485ab75a0.html

  On 12/1/2019 at 11:28 AM, Rich&Sylvia said:

Sad. . .and a tragedy for sure - yet not uncommon in Arizona - the state with the "Stupid Motorist Law".

We need one of those for winter storm warnings. We do have one for people who are reckless with fires that turn into wildfires. Do NOT throw your cigarette out of the car window in Minnesota. Or anywhere for that matter.

Linda Sand

The vehicle wasn't an RV, it was a military 4x4 flatbed with 9 people crammed into the cab.  Sad.

  On 12/2/2019 at 2:57 AM, Lou Schneider said:

The vehicle wasn't an RV, it was a military 4x4 flatbed with 9 people crammed into the cab.  Sad.

Yes, I saw that in a video after they pulled it out. I don't know where the "RV" reference came from unless there was a TC or something mounted on the flatbed that got dislodged in the flood.

There are different definitions for "RV".  A "recreational vehicle" can be lot's of things to lot's of people.

  On 12/1/2019 at 8:33 AM, Kirk W said:

If you read the story that RV was a home built that was driven into the water intentionally by the parents of the 7 children.

Must wonder *why* this article was posted - as it was on local and national news for several days?

RIP to/for the deceased.  Now, (past) time to close!

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Edited December 4 by Pappy Yokum

  On 12/4/2019 at 3:52 PM, Pappy Yokum said:

Must wonder *why* this article was posted - as it was on local and national news for several days?

Since I don't watch local or national news (I get a daily email that skims the news for me) I would not have known about it if it had not been posted here. Which would have been OK but I thought I'd let Pappy know that not all of us are turned in to all the news so we appreciate a heads up from time to time on articles of interest.

Linda Sand

Not all of the children were theirs.  They were visiting friends and one or more were friends.

Here's the video of the flatbed truck being pulled from the water.

https://www.azfamily.com/video/drone-video-of-the-rawlings-truck-being-hauled-out-of/video_6cfec9ec-80d6-56f4-afd6-a951f8767e7f.html

There is now a push to put a bridge over that creek because people live on both sides and they need access for emergency exits and also getting children to and from school.

Edited December 5 by 2gypsies

  On 12/4/2019 at 3:52 PM, Pappy Yokum said:

Must wonder *why* this article was posted - as it was on local and national news for several days?

RIP to/for the deceased.  Now, (past) time to close!

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I posted it because I thought it may be of interest to members of this forum. I had no ulterior motive. I did not even express an opinion. Others have posted about RV's damaged in tornados, missing RVers, RVers murdered in Mexico, etc. The original article and several others said it was an RV. This is an RV forum.

This is the time of year that many RVers are headed to the Southwest. Many may not be familiar with the danger involved in crossing or even camping in washes. I guess I should know better than to post on this forum as there is always someone ready to shoot the messenger of any post that they do not like or agree with. If you don't like a post, why not just ignore it instead of criticizing the fact that it was posted. If the moderators (which I do not think you are) want to close the topic or delete it they can easily do that.

Edited December 5 by trailertraveler