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If a person had a 16-18 ft 5th (i cant find any)
If you go up one foot longer:
https://www.scamptrailers.com/showroom/19-deluxe-trailers/19-deluxe-trailer-layout-a.html
Linda Sand
So now you're thinking of going from a toy hauler to a 16-18 foot trailer? That's quite a change. Or would this be your traveling trailer and still keep the toy hauler stationary? You'll have small windows with a small trailer.
With a half ton truck you will be pretty size/weight limited. The Scamp is one of the few fifth wheel trailers of that size but Escape 5.0 TA is another one but at 21' in length and with a gross weight just over 4,000#.
Is the length bumper to the over hing(over truck bed) ?
A bumper pull small trailer is often lighter than a 5er. For a small trailer I would think with the right hitch setup it would pull just fine. A 16-18' light weight trailer behind a heavy duty 1/2 ton truck should be a good setup. All 1/2 ton trucks are not equal. Be sure to follow the manufacturers towing guidelines. Most feel that it is important to stay well under the maximum for a comfortable setup.
I'm trying to go small. I like 1/4 ton truck's so I'm thinking I can get a 5th wheel set up and have beader chance of using a 1/2 ton mod'd truck. I'm seeing I might have to make my own toy hauler frame to get one light, small tall and with a 5th wheel. LOL fire up the tig.
If you go up one foot longer:
https://www.scamptrailers.com/showroom/19-deluxe-trailers/19-deluxe-trailer-layout-a.html
Linda Sand
I'm thinking 5 feet less. It just needs to haul a snowmobile.
So now you're thinking of going from a toy hauler to a 16-18 foot trailer? That's quite a change. Or would this be your traveling trailer and still keep the toy hauler stationary? You'll have small windows with a small trailer.
ops.. I forgot to post that I want it to be a toy hauler.
With a half ton truck you will be pretty size/weight limited. The Scamp is one of the few fifth wheel trailers of that size but Escape 5.0 TA is another one but at 21' in length and with a gross weight just over 4,000#.
I might have to go with a bigger truck.
Edited November 23 by rving mr
I'm thinking 5 feet less. It just needs to haul a snowmobile.
That's an entirely different scenario. Most of us think camper when talking 5th wheel. There is no such thing as a 16' toy hauler that is also a camper. Why would it need to be a 5th wheel to haul a snowmobile? Most people use bumper pulls for those.
Linda Sand
Have you looked at RVs at all? It doesn't seem that you have any concept of what is available to buy. I suggest that before you do more planning you spend some time visiting as many RV dealers as you have nearby.
That's an entirely different scenario. Most of us think camper when talking 5th wheel. There is no such thing as a 16' toy hauler that is also a camper. Why would it need to be a 5th wheel to haul a snowmobile? Most people use bumper pulls for those.
Linda Sand
There is a few small one but not with a 5th wheel. The smallest bumper hauling I have seen is 18 feet. I don't know whats standard for measuring 5th wheel hitch that's why I was unclear on my lengths.
Have you looked at RVs at all? It doesn't seem that you have any concept of what is available to buy. I suggest that before you do more planning you spend some time visiting as many RV dealers as you have nearby.
I live way in the boony's. most civilization is half a day + away.
I saw these . thay r ok but if there wer a 5th the bead could be above the 5th wheel hitch
Edited November 24 by rving mr
Could you please go over once again what you're trying to do? Sorry, I'm just confused at what you're trying to achieve.
You state you already have a toy hauler & you showed a pic of it in your beginning post. It appears to be a bigger one than what you're now looking at.
You then asked about doing extensive renovations on the walls/windows.
Now you seem to be wanting to get rid of that one & get a small one. Are you still planning on all the renovations?
What is your purpose for the RV? Are you living in it? Letting it set on property & never moved? The small one you're now looking at has small holding tanks and absolutely no outside storage. How many people will be living in this?
You mentioned towing a snowmobile trailer. You can do that with a truck.
Edited November 24 by 2gypsies
Could you please go over once again what you're trying to do? Sorry, I'm just confused at what you're trying to achieve.
You state you already have a toy hauler & you showed a pic of it in your beginning post. It appears to be a bigger one than what you're now looking at.
You then asked about doing extensive renovations on the walls/windows.
Now you seem to be wanting to get rid of that one & get a small one. Are you still planning on all the renovations?
What is your purpose for the RV? Are you living in it? Letting it set on property & never moved? The small one you're now looking at has small holding tanks and absolutely no outside storage. How many people will be living in this?
You mentioned towing a snowmobile trailer. You can do that with a truck.
Correct I have a bigger toy hauler.
I'm no going to do the renovations if I can find a smaller toy hauler with a 5th wheel hitch. I will be putting in the garage door mod.
I plane on traveling/living in it 24/7. Its just me for now. I want to store/haul a snowmobile.
I don't like expensive big trucks.
Most likely I will be building a custom frame because my specs are almost impossible to find.
Edited November 25 by rving mr
I looked at the two examples you gave and realized your snowmobile would take at least 1/3 of the trailer's carrying capacity. How do you plan to live full time with so little space and capacity to store anything? How much does your snowmobile suit weigh and how compactly does it compress? Do you plan on eating only freeze-dried food to keep that weight down? I'm curious as to how you plant to live full time in such a unit.
Linda Sand